Wednesday, May 27, 2009
Two days off from running is OK, but any more and withdrawal symptoms set in, and I'm already one and a half pounds heavier than I was this time time last week. Jogged round the garden last night in a large pair of road shoes which didn't impact the toe, so I'm UTUPing on Thursday ~ but don't expect too much.
EtU
Tuesday, May 26, 2009
I intend to post the pics of which there are a lot, over a number of blogs, but first of all let me congratulate EtU on the magnificent achievement of wearing less clothing on the Fells than Nico(wlcotftn). This is something he will proudly recount in later years, as he sits with pipe and slippers, blanket over his knees and a cup of hot chocolate. "Oh! And I did the JN as a side issue" he'll say.
The Incorrigibles
Proof at Styhead of EtU's wlcotftn
GG(No! It's nothing to do with horses, Nico)
Kirk Fell
Scoat Fell
Steeple
Publish and be damned, and let's hope there's not too many space-lines.
More observations and pics to follow.
Monday, May 25, 2009
What Can I Say?
Thank you to to the whole squad. Whether you were at the sharp end, or organising the logistics, or just being there, it couldn't have happened without you.
As we know, the weather could have been better ~ main purpose of the outing was to top up the tan ~ but we got there.
When I sat in the lounge of April Cottage on Friday evening, having been asked to explain what I was up to, it was clear that Britain isn't one one nation, there's us, and there's the folk that don't run the fells.
Leg 1 was good, and we arrived at TF's brew station well inside the schedule, with Brother John trailing slightly but in there to the finish. Good luck on your BG Karl, the way you were going, it shouldn't be a problem.
Lost some time over to Dunmail, as expected, but still close to the schedule. Steve K replaced John at this point and was just there, feeding, chatting and moving us along. Felt strong up Steel Fell, then the long trail to High Raise, Rosset Pike, Bowfell, Esk Pike and Great End. Met Joss, Brother John and the ever sartorially elegant TF on the descent, to meet lots of folk at Styhead.
Then the pain began. Peter Ferris (God bless his little cotton socks) was lead torturer, and he applied the pressure, following the little known Wasdale Mafia routes to make up for my lack of ability, by picking the way round the stuff that we southerners can't cope with.
Very brief chat with John the Elder at Black Sail, then more pain through to the finish, with only 7 minutes to spare.
Then goodbyes and farewells and the Charters's and Yours Truly dallied a while in the Bridge at Santon before supper and a well earned sleep.
Sunday evening saw a small family gathering in the garden of the TaT where grandson Alfie asked why, if I had three black toenails on my left foot, I couldn't kick the ball with my other foot.
Special mention to Ian, 2 JNs in 5 weeks, is this a record?
Once again, a very sincere thank you to everyone.
EtU.
Sunday, May 24, 2009
Congratulations EtR on completing your Joss in what were, at times, very adverse weather conditions. Seeing you at Black Sail Hause I was amazed that you were able to battle on with so many miles in your legs. High winds and low temperatures are, of course, very energy sapping. I was very frustrated that I was not able to be with you for at least part of the final leg and was equally envious of those who could. I suppose that weather conditions and injuries are both down to the luck of the draw.
Friday, May 22, 2009
All Nighters
When I was in my teens and early twenties the concept of an ‘All Nighter’, usually at Wigan Casino, was completely different to my current experience. Having had two consecutive Saturday ‘All Nighters’ – you’ve heard about the Fellsman. I thought you might like to read about John Fleetwood’s latest ‘Do’ which occurred last Sat/Sun. Ian and I were part of his support team.
Evening sun at St Johns in the Vale – before the night time torrents!
Read more at:
http://fss55at55.blogspot.com/2009/05/john-fleetwoods-24-marilyn-attempt.html
There’s also a good article on long distance scheduling complete with photo of YJ and Joss from last year – has Joss aged?
http://fss55at55.blogspot.com/2009/05/preparation-for-eds-joss.html
Thanks to JtE, Matt and EtR for a jolly good outing in the morning before travelling up to Patterdale -12.83 miles.
NLN
Wednesday, May 20, 2009
Just been having a look at the results and NicO's time is excellent as the winner barely broke 3 hours. Yet the first V60 was 3:14 which I suspect would be a challenge for Ed, YJ or Matt. What do you think - should we have a wfdbwgua works outing next year?
It looks like a nice race to do but you have to decide early - something I'm not known for. The info about the Swift Half suggests it is a good course for a PB yet it was won in 1:21 - maybe the real quickies are avoiding it?
Did my first track session for a few weeks last night and just coped with the 8 x 3 minutes, getting further than I expected but fading a little in the last few - but as always made sure was never late on the finish line. My back hurts today but that is probably from being slovenly afterwards. If we had the post training drinking at the club like the old days I 'm sure that I would recover better. A lot less there as I presume many will be doing the Jubilee tonight - I shall marshal.
May have to do an early run on Thursday so may well bump into you all on Winter Hill.
oh usw = und so weiter because at work the internet access goes through hosting in Germany so the blogger buttons and adverts etc are always German!
Tuesday, May 19, 2009
Saturday, May 16, 2009
It didn't look good this morning, my knee was still painful and I had a cracking migraine yesterday ( 9/10) which was still there this am but not as bad. At 9.00 I had ibuprofen and paracetamol which really helped the head and also the knee.
The race set off at 11 and I soon joined a friendly group of guys from Nottingham running 8.5min/mile and we all chatted happily until the painkillers wore off at 14miles. So it was another double dose and everything was amzingly ok until about 20mile marker when I just felt sore and tired, not exactly the wall but it wasn't a happy time for me. So it was a real relief to arrive under the 4 hour mark and even to finish.
David was a huge help, travelling from water point to water point with maxim energy drinks but I still only managed a pint. It's a glass of wine now to celebrate. See you all next Saturday for EtR's JN.
Friday, May 15, 2009
Thursday, May 14, 2009
Wednesday, May 13, 2009
Sorry about all that you have to say Nico. Unfortunately it comes down to deciding whether or not to risk further and possibly severe damage for the sake of the marathon. I do understand, however, how devastating it would be to pull out at this stage. My best advice is to act upon Norman's advice, whatever that might be. If you do run, then I hope you achieve all that you have strived for over the past weeks. You have tried very hard.
What a lightweight the pharmacist is, obviously not a fellrunner! Coming off Great Knoutberry on Sat my knee was unbearable and I honestly didn't know if I would be able to stand much more of the downhill stuff. Decided to press on to next checkpoint (as you do) consoling myself that two thirds of the climbing and therefore descent had been done. Had a bar and 400mg ibuprofen (which I had been taking every four hours, starting half an hour before the start). Didn't touch it really, but then on the advice of FSS took high strength (400mg I think) PARACETAMOL about 20 mins later. This combination seemed to really help and the pain was bearable to the finish, although the pace did slow and this could have helped as well.
By the way talking to Ian Kelly at the start and he said he had a nasty reaction to Voltorol (Diclofenic) so I won't be trying that one.
Hope this helps
NLN
Am feeling very gloomy about Saturday - pulled a ligament in my knee and it's quite sore all the time and only 2 days left to recover. On damage limitation it's a gets round now. How unlucky is that? Called in the chemist for some strong ibuprofen tabs to numb pain on run and the chemist wanted to know if I should be running on it. What a daft question to ask a fell runner. Also shouldn't take ibuprofen with bp tablets. Any ideas anyone? Do you know why TF?
Lakes trip sounds good fun, can't wait to get back to fun running and not races.
I'll let you know if I manage to run the big one. Nic O
Tuesday, May 12, 2009
Need to thank YJ and EtU for the lovely evening run last night. Very sunny but a bit of windchill, so grateful my one pair of shorts were in the wash.
All the best to NicO for the marathon
TF
(from mobile phone)
By a quite remarkable coincidence, TF had booked accommodation very close to the Swift Bros' planned start point for a recce of the Kirkstone to Dunmail section of the "Joss". Those involved in the outing, which in fact included neither Kirkstone, nor Dunmail, will recall that "close" refers to distance, not time ~ don't ask!
Rendezvousing in Ambleside soon after 5:30 the intrepid trio, TF, YJ and yours truly, set off up the Kirkstone motor road to attack Red Screes by the main ridge. This is a fine route, well defined for the most part, and sound underfoot. Although breezy, the evening was fine, with a clear blue sky. As we climbed the breeze increased and the temperature decreased until it became quite bitter (a bit of windchill, indeed!). Full sun on top of Red Screes then started to lose it as we descended to Scandale Pass ~ do you know that in Wainwrights "Lakeland Mountain Passes" of the 49 listed, no less than nine of them start with the letter "S"?
Saw the sun again as we passed Dove Crag, Hart, then finally to Fairfield. We had decided earlier that the fast fading light would make any further progress along the route unwise, and at that point we turned down the south ridge and finally lost the sun whilst contouring Heron Pike.
The wind was fairly unrelenting until we lost even more height and it seemed that the effects of the cold increased with the age of the runner. TF had been wary of too long an outing, having had a good run at Buttermere only the day before, but whilst she lagged slightly on the climbs, she soon came skipping past at the first suggestion of a descent.
The day wouldn't have been complete without YJ doing his falling over thing, unfortunately it was an awkward fall, overbending his already complaining knee; hope it recovers well, John, we need you on the 23rd.
We hit tarmac at Rydal and it seemed strange to be running by street lights in fell shoes.
Reverting to traditional roles, TF was sent home to put the kettle on, whilst the Swift Bros smartened themselves up in the car park to take mugs of tea in her rather fine, recently converted cottage. Twenty minutes later YJ and I were bemoaning the lack of a chippy in either Ambleside or Windermere.
Apart from YJ's fall, no chippy and the "bit of windchill" (tough bird that TF), it was a fine outing, thanks folks ~ stats to follow, courtesy of YJ's Garmin.
EtU
Having just read your report and those on the FRA forum, it puts my little extended jog on the Malham Meander into perspective. At least I had the benefit of fairly decent tracks to run on and had I not had my detours would have been back in the dry before that refreshing shower on Saturday afternoon dampened my legs.
Monday, May 11, 2009
Fellsman - Finished
But not in the time we hoped for. 62 miles (plus –see below!) 11,00ft ascent
Conditions were pretty tough on the day. We started off with only a mild drizzle which blew through before the summit of Ingleborough, but the biting strong wind was present throughout the day, with gusts on the tops taking your breath away - and at the Checkpoint at Cray, literally the competitors tent!
Dropping down from Great Coum and Flinter Gill driving rain accompanied us to the 18 mile checkpoint at Dent, where a hot cheese pastie and beans were forced down to keep us going. We lingered here not wishing to face the elements across Blea Moor, but with an easing of the rain we set out again. Heartened at this stage by being well up on our schedule and with a sub-20hr time possible.
We were grouped with three Midlanders at Fleet Moss at 37 miles in preparation for the night section but made it across Fleet Moss in daylight – a real bonus. Our companions for the night were all novices and so Ian shouldered much of the responsibility for the navigation. This he did splendidly with a slight detour around Middle Tongue. But the pace completely fell away over atrocious bogs with Ian having to be extracted bodily on three or four occasions.
At Cray one of our team decided to try to assist in navigation which proved to be a bit of a nightmare with us losing a goodly amount of time trying to locate the path off Buckden Pike. But by far the biggest catastrophe was taking the wrong direction off the final summit of Great Whernside resulting in a huge detour back up to the trig point at Capplestone Gate, before the long awaited descent to Threshfield.
The last time we did the Fellsman we would have been happy with the time of 23.32, and indeed our companions were pleased, but we both felt a little dejected not to have achieved a better time.
Winner Jez Bragg 10.50 and first lady Sarah Rowell 13.45. About a third of the field did not finish with folk apparently dropping out at the Hill Inn after 6 miles, makes you wonder what they expected.
Lesson learned – damage to the feet is much easier to conceal than that to the face! Hoping that a week’s rest will allow me to join whoever’s out this Saturday UTUP (don’t wait).
Good luck Nic’O for Saturday – you’ve done the work so enjoy the day!
NLN
Apologies to YJ & Nico for having them wait on Saturday. Went out for a run on Thursday afternoon for a trial run on steep terrain but had a particularly busy time from thereon and never got to the blog until Friday evening. As there was nothing posted I thought no-one was out on Saturday. I shouldn't think. It's never done me any good. See you this Saturday.
Matt
Rather than squelching across from Winter Hill to Noon Hill on Saturday I decided to go for something a bit longer so got up reasonably early on Saturday and headed over to Kirkby Malham in good time for the runners' start time of 9.30. Got there just after 9 and then found the car park so returned to register by which time the final batch of runners had gone - 9.30 was obviously a latest time for runners as I later found out that as long as they were delayed sufficiently for the checkpoints to be in place, they could go (walkers went at 8.30).
No problem and setting off about 9.25 I could see a runner in front of me who caught just before the first checkpoint at Malham, and it wasn't long before we caught the sweepers and we started to pass walkers.
Let's do a bit more #1 - It's at least 30 years since I went up Gordale Scar and when I got there I suddenly found that my knees didn't fancy one bit of it and rather than risk injury I decided to double back (as did a couple more - but they decided to call it a day and switch to the mini-meander route) and find an alternative route to the next checkpoint at the field centre on the northern shore of the tarn.
Let's do a bit more #2 - Moved past a few more walkers (some for a second time!) and then ended up with no-one in front of me and managed to take myself onto the road back into Malham for some reason, adding on a further 3 miles but also 700 ft of descent followed by 600ft of climb instead of a what would have been fairly easy running.
Back onto the recommended route and the forecast of only light winds with a 10% chance of rain became a full blown gale!
The bonus was that after nearly 7 hours and approaching 30 miles, I was still able to run at a reasonable speed and my knees were okay - all good work for the future (I hope).
As an event I would highly recommend it - lots of cakes and nice food at the end and plenty of people to chat to on the way round and even if you only do the stated distance of 23 miles (which I think is what I'll go for next year) great value for £8 (that's only £3 more than the Astley Park 5k!!!!!!). I would even suggest it as a training run as I would expect to complete the route in under 5 hours on a reasonable day.
Sunday, May 10, 2009
Saturday, May 09, 2009
Problems with posting blogs by YJ during the week may have been due to my computer rehashing an old version and not updating to show a current posting. Could have been operator error. If this appears I may have solved the mystery.
And then there were two....
Problems in posting a blog during the week nearly prevented a much depleted Saturday squad meeting up on 9th May but the value of UTUP paid off and Nico and YJ arrived at the lower barn within seconds. Rumours that Matt was to make a comeback proved inaccurate and having given him 5 minutes grace the two of us set off for Healey Nab, White Coppice, Abbey Village, Roddleworth, Catherines Edge and Dock Bucket Farm.
At the Belmont Bull the Belmont Winter Hill race preliminaries were just starting and after a brief (very brief) discussion we decided not to wait and do the race. This was the parting of the ways, Nico opting to return to the Lower Barn by the direct route past the allotments and YJ choosing to get in one extra climb via the Ramp, returning via the trig point, wooden bridge, down the sheep's back and past the Top barn.
Stats (Garmin): Distance, 18.69, time 3hr 55min, pace 12 min 36 secs per mile, climbing 2,900ft.
It was YJ's best run for some time and as I arrived feeling a little jaded it proved the value of squad training for our long runs. Thanks Nico and good luck next weekend
Friday, May 08, 2009
Wednesday, May 06, 2009
April was my last full month of preparation for J Day. Planned mileage of 215 was achieved with only three hours to spare, giving the scheduled average of 50 miles per week. Actual week by week miles varied between a high of 60 and a low of 43, this latter figure resulting from missing Saturday 25th due to a work commitment.
Performance varied greatly, with many days of feeling very tired and the odd one of feeling that real progress was being made. On one of my better days I met FSS who declared that although the approaching figure looked like me it couldn't be because it was going so well! A back-handed compliment if ever there was one!
Some weight has finally been shed; BMI on the last weigh-day in April was 23.5 against a post Christmas high of 24.4, but still only half way to the 22.5 target. No further significant reduction is envisaged as the taper starts after next Monday evening's Lakeland trip.
FSS's successful crossing was a good boost as I felt good on the day and it would have been difficult not to be encouraged by the general feeling of well-being.
Support now fully organised, except for final logistics from Dunmail, which I understand are still being arranged. I will write up full arrangements and email to all interested parties shortly.
Special thanks go to NLN (No Longer Not unscathed/) for sacrificing her good looks to the cause ~ good luck in the Fellsman.
EtU (or is it finally EtR?)
It seems as though most are otherwise engaged on Saturday which could leave me as the only squad member on duty. If so I will make an earlier start from the lower barn and probably try to get as far as Darwen Tower. It would be preferable to have company and the extra motivation that comes with it.
Tuesday, May 05, 2009
Just when you think you’ve got an impressive injury you find yourself totally upstaged. A colleague's mother was taken off the Ingleton waterfalls route by Mountain Rescue Team with a broken ankle on Friday and is now in Lancaster Hospital recovering!! What can I say!
In response to my query re substance of choice, here are some contributions from the staff room: a) Seems so obvious but Vaseline - a pre-requisite for any kitbag for injury prevention for all those oh so sensitive areas b) Voltorol tablets(diclafenic), now available without prescription, great anti-inflammatory, although needs to take with food as can aggravate stomach: c) Red Bull (sugar free) gives a massive dose of caffeine and no nasty artificial colours or flavouring – although ProPlus is probably easier to carry! d)Guranja tablets (used by a friend of a friend!!!)– I think that is how you spell it – they look like big horse tablets - not sure what these are for!
Last one sounds very iffy! I add disclaimer for any of the above as I have not tried them myself, particularly the last one. But will try to get b) for Sat!
NLN
Monday, May 04, 2009
Your adventures in the Lakes sound harrowing and have inspired me to confirm that Sudocrem is indeed a product of excellence. Being particularly good on small cuts it is the main ingredient of my equine first aid kit. In winter it is great for treating mud rash and cracked heels both on the horses and on myself!!
That said, it was no use this weekend when Jazz got her legs caught in the sheep netting and took the skin off the insides of both back legs. To enable its effectiveness requires putting it on to the wound. Difficult when wounds are on fast moving dangerous weapons objecting to being treated. Finally managed to spray lavender oil on as was told this is also good for healing.
I'll be utup next Saturday, if anyone there,
NicO
David reports that Dickie "chocks away!" Woodrow gained a further half hour on his schedule, after we saw him leaving Bowfell, to complete his crossing in about 16 and a half hours.
Sorry about the no show today t'Y, but the race was to be part of a family outing and when the weather was so inclement, the whole caboodle had to be aborted.
FRA miles remain at 19.25.
EtU
Sunday, May 03, 2009
Recreational Drugs and Fell Running
Just to update you on the fallout, as it were– it looks much worse than it feels! The sickening crunch of bone on rock convinced me that the nose was broken, but I now think Ed and John’s initial assessment was correct, as I can prod it and sneeze heartily (good trick) without excruciating pain. So no lasting damage (I hope) but one helluva shiner on the left with a rather less spectacular one on the right- I won’t go into details on the nose front, suffice to say it’s not pretty. Good taste prevents me from posting an image, thankfully nobody had a camera yesterday.
At the time, my initial reaction of anger and frustration (sorry Ed) with myself for being so damned clumsy, gave way to relief that eyes and teeth were intact and that I wasn’t in too much agony to carry on with the run. This being an important tester for Ed prior to his Joss. Ed being just behind me post-impact, did his best to hide his shock, but I could tell he was rattled by my appearance – John having gone through much worse himself, in recent times, looked relieved when he could see I could move and speak coherently. Thanks again guys – we’re developing a sort of a pattern here, me getting into some sort of scrape and you two gallantly coming to my rescue! Anyway back to the story… so apart from the blood – of which there was a copious quantity things weren’t so bad. Not having a mirror, (note to put one in first aid kit!!- which I don’t carry!) I couldn’t see the damage but I knew from the reactions I was getting from strangers that it must be bad, one guy turned to his buddy as I ran past and just let out a long GEEEEZ!!. I couldn’t wait to get to the Ladies toilets at the Wasdale Head, where the mirror revealed much less of a horror than my mind had conjured up. Still managed to scare two geordies to death ‘though when I ran in, almost knocking one of them over to get to the mirror.
Sod’s law would have it that we were out for supper last night, not to a restaurant – that would have been impossible, but over to friends at Belmont. I phoned ahead, to give a bit of a warning of what to expect, and to give them permission to laugh out loud when I arrived. All went well, good night was had by all – today’s been pretty sluggish, but I think that’s more to do with the wine rather than the head bashing. By the way Nicole we could see your place from Steve and Eileen’s conservatory!
Anyway the point is – thank goodness for recreational drugs, a) Ibuprofen, the drug of choice for fellrunners - mitigates the general damage incurred by prolonged violent muscle abuse; followed closely by ProPlus, for a general ‘livener’ – akin to consuming several shots of espresso without the after effects, gets you through the night section of long events and helps on the drive home; but perhaps one of my all time favourites, and only really appreciated by the cognoscenti; c) Sudocreme this is truly awesome stuff for chafing, abrasion, grazes and all general wounds - its healing properties are legend, and having used rather a lot this weekend I can only say it’s just wasted on infant nappy rash!
Which only begs the question – what’s your substance of choice, on or off the hill?
NLN
PS Not out next Sat – Fellsman, just more opportunities to use all of the above!
Saturday, May 02, 2009
A fine and eventful outing this morning from Wasdale Head. We met Dave P-T just after the arranged time of 9:15 and after using the facilities at the Wasdale Head Inn we (NLN, YJ, P-T Dave and I) set off up to Sty Head at 9:45. We didn't run, but walked at a forced march pace to arrive at the stretcher box at 10:35. Conversation on the ascent touched on Julia Bradbury several times, and we were amused to find that Dave had amassed fell groupies who muttered things like "it's 'im off tele innit?" as we passed.
Without slowing (apart from pausing whilst Dave signed autographs), we made Sprinkling Tarn and eventually after passing Esk Hause, continued to the top of Rosset Gill, where we turned south for Bowfell. Bowfell was gained without incident and we subsequently set off for Esk Pike. The Bowfell to Esk Pike route is not my sort of terrain so I was pleased to find that we made it in 23 minutes against my schedule of 29.
All was going well from there until Pauline lost concentration near the top of Great End and attacked the local geology with the bridge of her nose. As she sat up I could see that she had gashed said extremity and that blood was dripping copiously from the end. Thoughts of helicopters and begging surgical dressings from passing para-medics flashed through my mind, but further examination revealed that whilst there was an external wound that was hemorrhaging, most of the blood was from an internal nose bleed. Bravely Pauline regained her feet and we continued on to Great End Summit.
At that point, it became apparent that Pauline was not not really one of the guys, but was mainly concerned that she was going out for dinner that evening and would be slightly less picturesque than usual. Slight reduction in the level of of sympathy from the Swift bros.
From there we endured an awful descent to Sty Head down scree filled gullies, only to be told by our TV personality that this wasn't the route for me and that on the day we should back-track nearly to Esk House. Wassat all about then?
At that point the sun came out and everything seemed to improve.
We jogged back to Wasdale Head and then whilst YJ got himself organised and Pauline got her nose organised, I trotted half way along the lake to get a couple of more miles in.
A good long morning out; hope that Pauline's dinner companions found something to talk about other than her in-your-face injury.
As we used to say when I was little "If I had a nose like your nose, I'd put my nose where nobody knows".
Thanks guys.
EtU.
Wednesday, April 29, 2009
A slight mis-calculation on the FRA miles, I missed out Askham (8.5m).
Total for TF is now 65.9m
Can't have EtU stealing a march on this competition, so I think I'll do Coiners on Monday next week. The extra 2hr lie-in and the fact that it's a 1/4m further sealed the decision.
May make it to UTUP tomorrow. Anyone doing Saturday? I can only manage a 2hr effort this week.
TF
See you on the line t'Y ~ don't get mixed up with the scarecrows when they do the judging, coming third behind Worzel Gummidge and Aunt Sally would do nothing for your street cred!
Seem to remember you beating me on the run-in at this one a few years ago.
Have to do a bit of racing now and then to reduce TF's ever increasing lead in my (foolish) challenge.
EtU
Having hopefully got this cold/flu out of the way (bit of swine that was, haha), I shall hopefully be back running and racing. Possibly UTUPing tomorrow but not certain.
Had I not had a break, Coniston would have been a nice excursion but instead I shall have to wait for a race with my daughter on Monday as Diane has decided to also run at Wray Cayton. I think I shall have to be five minutes ahead of her on the ascent otherwise she will race past me coming down. Anyone else fancy doing it? It's always a good day out with lots of things going on at the show and around the village.
Can't decide whether to do Belmont Winter Hill the following week or possibly the Malham Meander LDWA which allows runners - has anyone experienced the event? Oh and the revamped Chorley 4 starts next Wednesday.
Monday, April 27, 2009
Sunday, April 26, 2009
Another 10m in the bag, so that makes 57.4m for the year so far. EtU will be pleased to know I'm having a break from racing next weekend.
I need to thank YJ for the tip about the Vaseline, worked a treat today, not a spot of sunburn anywhere. I think I managed about the 2hr mark +/- a few seconds. Finishers from 220+ don't have a space on the results board, but guess we'll know soon enough.
So as I bettered last years time, I treated myself to a visit to the Garden Centre on the way home to acquire three new Hostas. These are to replace my prize specimens that the slugs decimated (didn't even leave the stalks!) last year. If the little b*****s take so much as a munch or even a nibble out of these ones, it'll be war.
TF
Saturday, April 25, 2009
Friday, April 24, 2009
Thursday, April 23, 2009
Having prepared my headline for this evening's abortive attempt at Old Harpers trig ~ "Disappointed Trigpointers" You will see that I was pre-empted by TF; she also put me firmly in my place regarding our respective positions in our (I use the word loosely) FRA mileage challenge ~ hope your cake burnt!
Nevertheless, overall, it was a good outing and we saw a bit of fell and I got in a few miles and possibly a couple of recruits for J Day.
EtU
PS I don't really hope you burnt (burned?) your cake.
Having been prompted by EtU earlier this evening, I'm required to update my race mileage. So thus far
Kinder Trial 11m
Lads Leap 5.9m
Midgely Moor 5m
Liver Hill 5m
Anniversary Waltz 11.5m
Coledale 9m
Total 47.4m
I was introduced to the trig just off Matchmoor Lane this evening. Introduced needs to be applied very loosely as we weren't quite in nodding distance before we were spotted by the local farmer from his quad bike. A big bloke this farmer, so me and Steve let EtU do all the talking (it was his idea we were in the field anyway) and after much forelock tugging we were let off with a caution. We all live to run another day.
TF
Wednesday, April 22, 2009
Tuesday, April 21, 2009
Fun in the Sun
Great day for Ian’s Joss, makes a change! Thanks to all supporters -made all the difference on the day. For your training records Ed, our outing gave us 12.79 miles with 5,341ft of climbing. Looking forward to the next one – not long to go. Rhiannon took a fantastic portrait of Joss which you can see on Ians Blog at fss55at55.blogspot.com – also tribute to you all on Ian’s account posted by Norman on RMI blog - more photos to come once they’ve been sorted.
NLN
You've wet my appetite, and most probably everyone else's. What is this ultra that you have in mind with 550 miles and 50,000 ft of climbing spread over 50 days ~ possibly a Pyrenean traverse?
Not sure I could get time off for the full support, but keep me posted.
I'm UTUPing Thursday and looking for miles and climbing.
EtU
Monday, April 20, 2009
...FSS, you were due a good day, the elements having conspired against you on all your previous outings. Joss's "Crossing" can never be easy, but you looked in fine form and it was a privilege to be out there with you on such a magnificent day.
Let's hope you get similar conditions for your "56".
EtU
Saturday, April 18, 2009
Friday, April 17, 2009
Wednesday, April 15, 2009
Thanks TF for your valiant effort in attempting to understand! The mystery path strikes off the left hand side of the normal route from Great Hill to Piccadilly . I think it is somewhere between Pimms and Piccadilly but all will be verified in due course.
A Wheatear EtU. Not seen one locally yet.
Tuesday, April 14, 2009
Remember the new route I took you all on from Tockholes to Wheelton? When I left you at the stile at the bottom of Great Hill I followed the fence line for a bit and then took a diagonal trod to the drop onto the 'mystery path' to get back to the car park. I noticed a couple of trods off to the right and made the assumption they headed up to Spitlers, but wasn't sure where they would meet it. Now I know where one of them goes. The other one was probably a bit closer to the two streams on the right of the path as I ran it (GR654188)
Mystery Woman
Sorry EtU don't know who she was, but as I was bringing up the rear at this point that should narrow it down a bit. She could claim it's a bit 'cheeky' to be commenting on her running fashion faux pas especially from someone who owns a pair of Union Jack running shorts.
I think T'Y was on the right side diagonal 5th one from the edge, long sleve red top, black shorts (subject to confirmation).
TF
Monday, April 13, 2009
Saturday was YJ's and my 11th Pike double, we started in 1996, his BG year, to keep his miles up, and we missed only in 2001 (FMD), 2004 (YJ's "gentleman's" operation) and 2008 (adverse weather warning). Lost count now, but this year was probably my 30th consecutive Pike race (will confirm when I access my archive). PB was 22:23 (sorry Andrew) in 1993 at the ripe old age of 46. Interesting (to me) in that in the intervening years my ascent time has deteriorated by 31.9%, but my descent by only 20.5%.
Has t'Yorkshireman prepared his Anniversary Waltz report yet? If you don't want to know the results look away now ~ well done TF! Is the identity of the lady with the VPL in TF's photo known?
Just to re-assure the team that I'm putting in the work for J Day, last week's training consisted of:
Monday - Two Lads and Pike - 9
Tuesday - Ditto - 9
Wednesday am - Black Combe - 4
Wednesday pm - Blackrod & Crown Lane - 6
Thursday - Meander over Winter Hill with TF - 7
Friday - Pike - 7
Saturday - Big Pike, Little Pike - 13
Sunday - Pike - 7.
Total miles ~ 62, time on feet ~ 16 hours (ish)
Climbing ~ 10,000ft (ish)
Oh, yes, JtE, we saw a Wheatear near Rosset Pike.
EtU
Thanks NLN (and FSS) for the clever map. Hope your head's ok by now NLN!
Yes, the route we took away from Belmont Road does join the 'normal' route to Great Hill. I have used it many times. If you imagine approaching Great Hill from Piccadilli, you come to a stile followed immediately by a deep ravine with a stream in the bottom. It is at this stile that the route in question joins. This, therefore, must be Pimms and the mystery path must be between this point and Piccadilly. I will recce it.
I think that we joined Spitlers at a point beyond your route to Ammunition Corner. It might have a small cairn already but, yes, we will build a big one.
I wonder if all of this makes sense to anyone other than NicO, you and me!
Too Much Time on my Hands
I must have to do this, just had a crash course/Master class from FSS in import/exporting stuff from SportsTracks to Memory Map and I have to say my head is battered. But I thought you might find it interesting. JtE in particular in pursuance of the mystery path.
(Click to enlarge)
You can see from our actual route (red line) that we picked up the footpath from Belmont Road and then departed from it to pick up the trod that was visible over Bromiley Pastures bringing us directly to Spitlers, but some way along. The path over the ridge that we would normally have taken is not actually a footpath at all, but look where the designated path takes us back to – yes Pimms and the mystery path ergo this should give us another interesting and alternative route from Great Hill, avoiding the road and picking up the path over to Spitlers. The path we couldn’t find yesterday is not marked on the map either, perhaps we could build a little cairn some time!
NLN
Sunday, April 12, 2009
Thanks for the reports NLN and EtU. The fitness is certainly back EtU. Well done.
The mystery path to which NLN refers might start at, or near to, a place named on the map as "Pimms". Approx. grid ref. 652194. This path turns about until it hits the Belmont Road a short distance northish of Piccadilly. However, I know that this is far too vague to be acceptable and I will, therefore, go and sort it out on site.
Thanks girls for the Saturday run. Glad you were both a bit tired!
Saturday, April 11, 2009
..and days to remember ~ this was one to remember. I don't like early starts, and setting my alarm for 5:30 didn't make me happy. But as soon as I left the house and saw the sky, it was obvious that the weather was going to be kind to us. As we drove along Windermere and got our first view of the Langdales we could see it was special. Lots of cloud, but white cloud and thinning, with sun peeping through and highlighting the high fells.
We parked at the ODG and set off towards Rosset Gill. There was cloud, but as we gained height the cloud receded and apart from one brief spell we were in clear air. The rocks were dry and we summitted in just over 2 hours. Slightly overlong socialising and photo session (see below) on Scafell Pike summit lost us some time ~ a Portugese couple and a couple from New Zealand ~ on the basis of this very limited sample, NZ women are prettier than Portugese, although Portugese women are very pleasant (she took the photo).
Then we turned for home and on the way took in the wildness of Angle tarn against the backdrop of Esk Pike Crags.
(New camera, must learn to hold it straight)
Then back to the car in just over/under four hours ~ depending on whose timing system you use.
Bit of a rush back down the motorway to Bamber Bridge, where YJ turned for home and I managed to make it to the crown just as Jane Bland was closing down registration.
Completed the race in 28 something, 2 minutes faster than '07 and and '08.
The sort of day that almost rates as the most fun you can have with your clothes on.
EtU
Friday Afternoon, Saturday Morning/Afternoon
Friday saw the two of us doing our once a year road race the scenic and hilly (just under 1000ft) Caldervale 10. The promised rain held off until we were heading back home down the motorway, so conditions were good. I was very pleased to be within 40 seconds of last year’s time but felt stronger at the finish. Neither of us are any good at judging pacing so maybe could have gone a bit quicker between the hills. Legs felt heavy from last weekend’s climbing so 1.29.33 was a bit of a surprise coming 7 out of 14 FV45s. FSS has a more detailed race report and I know YJ will be interested in seeing the data posted there on splits taken from the Garmin via Sportstrack.
http://fss55at55.blogspot.com/2009/04/calder-vale-10.html
So it was with some trepidation I set off to the Lower Barn for our usual Saturday outing. YJ and EtU were paying their usual Easter respects to the highest mountain in England before the possibility of the Pike Race - TF had other plans (looking forward to hearing all about it guys). That left Nic’O, JtE and me.
It was decided to do one of our usual routes in reverse – out to White Coppice, Brinscall, Great Hill where we had a lovely sit in the sunny shelter, with none of us eager to move. At this point I was feeling much better for the leg stretch, the miles and the climbs made much easier by the easy camaraderie of good company, sunshine and the light breeze. I foolishly suggested descending Great Hill in the direction of Belmont, thinking no-one would go for that one! It was agreed quickly (too quickly). We found ourselves on a slightly different descent path at the bottom which seemed much better underfoot and discovered a mystery path higher up which JtE might research for us.
Back along the road to pick up the footpath to Spitlers. Once on the path we took an earlier detour along a trod to bring us, eventually, onto the Edge but a little too far along to pick up our usual short cut to miss out Horderns and the road. Reaching the road, then, at Horderns my legs finally petered out and it was a bit of a struggle to keep the momentum going to the end. But a great morning – let’s hope we have similar conditions next Saturday.
Route below gave us 13.99m (I think we’ll call that 14) and 1,873ft of ascent.
A quick dash home for a shower and then back to Horwich to marshall the Pike Race. Weather held good and after a gallant swap of duties by FSS, Nic’O and I found ourselves at the second gate along the track up to the farm.
Everyone seemed to be having a good time! Especially EtU fresh from his morning exploits.
Ed’s looking good off the hard training – oh no this one’s Andrew, son of Nic’O and David, storming home in 22.25 51st overall and 4th U18.
How was it for you Ed?
NLN
Thursday, April 09, 2009
Tuesday, April 07, 2009
Kinder Downfall Recce
Still OK with me for next Wed. Just tell me when and where to meet and I’ll be there. Your route alternative sounds good TF, thanks for the planning.
NLN
Monday, April 06, 2009
As promised a map for the Kinder Downfall route for next week, well a link to a map http://www.cs.man.ac.uk/temples-bin/hc.pl?a=img&d=hc&f=downfall
Is Weds 15th still ok with everyone? I don’t think I’ll be up to doing much more than 3hrs with it being sandwiched between races for me on Sat 11th and Sat 18th. This route doesn’t have a particularly good finish (too much tarmac) so I’d like to suggest an alternative way back from Edale Cross to take in the trig at Brown Knoll, past South Head and Mount Famine, then through the woods at Elle Bank.
Depending on how long it takes us to get to the point where the Kinder Trog (different race) Route turns off at Peep-o-day and how tired my little legs are, we could always make a foray onto the other side of the main road and I could show you the ‘Big Stone’.
Anyone want to make a stab at suggesting a meeting point and a setting off time?
Askham Fell Race 8.5m/1800ft Sat 4th April
I was similarly affected by the weather on Saturday and a bit cold when I got back and I’d only been out for a bit short of 2hrs. The organiser had gone to a lot of effort for this race, even to the point of flagging a safe route up to Arthur’s Pike. Don’t suppose decapitated fellrunners would look too good on your first event! Got a good view of Ullswater on the way out, and a good view of the inside of my jackets’ hood on the way back.
Route map here
http://homepages.cs.ncl.ac.uk/nigel.thomas/Askham/
Results here
http://www.fellrunner.org.uk/results/race09/09_askham.htm
I’ll utup on thurs this week.
TF
Sorry to hear about the curtailed South-North Lakes run on Saturday, NLN. You were obviously unfortunate in the conditions as I managed to find good weather in the Lakes either side of Saturday.
A walk with TGL (The Good Lady) on Friday was started in very low clag and cold but no wind or rain and was perfect for an amble through the daffodils on a recce of Sunday's Spring in Lakeland LDWA event. By mid afternoon the sun was out.
This was a pattern repeated on Sunday and fortunately there was no sign of last year's icy conditions. This may have been reponsible for the improved time of 5 hrs 11 mins (6 mins better than 12 months ago). Distance was 23.14 and overall pace was 13 mins 28 secs per miles.
Sunday, April 05, 2009
Cumbrian Traverse 1 – Rucksack Club 0
Or more accurately the weather was the winner on the day! Having watched all the weather forecast sites from Monday, including the mountain weather for the Cumbrian mountains, we should have been basking in sunshine by Saturday afternoon. Instead we battled throughout the day in strengthening winds gusting to such an extent that even the sturdiest of the four man team was struggling to maintain an upright position. This proved treacherous on rocks slippery from a combination of light/heavy rain to horizontal hail on the Crinkles.
Disappointing, but a good day’s walk with lots of climbing miles in the legs. Despite the conditions, we were still 20 minutes up on the originator’s roughly 15-hour schedule, when we decided to bail out and descend to the comfort of the Chippy in Keswick.
Tops ticked were:
- Great Stickle
- Stickle Pike
- Caw
- White Maiden
- Brown Pike
- Dow Crag
- Old Man of Coniston
- Swirl How
- Great Carrs
- Cold Pike
- Crinkle Crags
- Bowfell
- Esk Pike
From Esk Hause we made our way down the valley to Seathwaite, picking up footpaths to Keswick. The Cumbrian Traverse is there for another day, we did succeed in our walk from Broughton Mills to Keswick, giving us 30.5 miles and 8663ft of ascent.
Tops outstanding:
- Great End
- Great Gable
- Green Gable
- Brandreth
- Grey Knotts
- High Spy
- Maiden Moor
- Cat Bells
This was intended to be a good warm up for the Fellsman in May, frustratingly the knee pain experienced on the Amble reappeared later in the day, along with a very ‘tight’ lower back – obviously connected, which doesn’t auger well. My hope is that this was a result of the twisting/wrenching etc on the extremely rough terrain and that it will settle down fairly quickly. Although the Fellsman is twice the distance, the terrain is much more benign even with a similar amount of climbing. Fingers crossed!
NLN
PS – weather precluded any piccies!
Saturday, April 04, 2009
The team today was NicO, YJ, EtU and me. The initial route was Two Lads, Winter Hill, ramp to Belmont and then to Hordern Stoops. EtU, who was suffering a bit due to a heavy training schedule, and YJ both wanted to finish early and left NicO and me at this point. The two of us continued for a good run to Great Hill, then to White Coppice directly from Drinkwater's and via the reservoirs back to the barn.
A great morning out. 14.55 miles.
Thursday, April 02, 2009
You Are What You Eat!
Dear Ed the Ultranourished
Responding to your nutritional queries the old adage above springs to mind. The problem posed when training for your ultra-event is how to stop the growth or preferably reverse it to allow for quicker propulsion on the inclines (of which there are of course many on your Joss).
There are, indeed many strategies to achieve the necessary reduction in weight (none of which you have chosen to pursue). Your public revelations last Saturday morning concerning Penguin bars, were tantamount to nutritional suicide. One can only assume a certain amount of masochistic zeal in your desire to maintain your current body mass, given the task you have set yourself. This is only confirmed by your drift towards pie-eating – one would think you had been raised in Wigan!
My only advice is to abandon any attempt or advice on healthy eating as your current excellent form on the hill is testament to the success of your diet - maybe there’s a reality TV show in there somewhere!
Keep putting it away lad!
With all good wishes from a Nutritionally Loaded Novice (NLN)

